215W 24V panel in series with smart solar 100/20 on 12V system theory and practice

by T6 Project · 1 month ago 9 views 6 replies
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#4834

Been mulling over a setup question that I think a few of you running 12V van or cabin systems might have thoughts on.

I've got a Victron SmartSolar 100/20 and I'm looking at adding a 215W panel to the mix. The panel I'm eyeing up is rated at around 24V nominal (Voc somewhere in the high 30s), which on paper sits comfortably within the 100V input limit of the controller — so no drama there.

What I'm less sure about is real-world performance when you've got that kind of voltage differential between panel and battery bank. Running a 12V service bank (thinking two 95Ah AGMs in parallel, similar territory to Yuasa), the MPPT should handle the step-down fine in theory. But does anyone actually notice efficiency losses or heat issues in practice with that sort of ratio?

Secondary question — has anyone split their system into a dedicated starter battery and a separate service bank using a voltage-sensitive relay alongside this kind of MPPT setup? Curious whether the VSR plays nicely or causes any weirdness with the Victron's charge algorithms.

I'm also wondering:

  • Is there a sweet spot for panel voltage relative to a 12V bank on the 100/20 specifically?
  • Would two smaller panels in parallel (lower Voc) actually yield better real-world results than one larger panel at higher voltage?

Running this off-grid rather than in a van, so cable runs are longer than most — which makes me lean toward higher panel voltage anyway to reduce losses. But open to being talked out of it.

Anyone done the maths or run something similar? What did you find?

Rob
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#4865

@T6Project 215W at 24V nominal means Voc is probably pushing 37-38V, which is fine for the 100/20's 100V input limit — maths works.

Real problem is your 20A output limit: 215W ÷ 12V = ~18A absolute max in perfect conditions, so you're cutting it uncomfortably close and any slight panel over-performance on a cold clear day will have the MPPT throttling back anyway.

Bigger issue — check your actual Vmp, not nominal. If it's a proper 60-cell 24V panel the MPPT will struggle to extract efficiently into a 12V battery bank; Victron's own guidance suggests Vmp should be at least 5V above absorption voltage.

Run it through Victron's MPPT calculator before buying — saves the inevitable "why's my yield rubbish" post later.

Breezy Wanderer
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#4870

@T6Project Worth flagging the current side of things too. A 215W panel will have an Imp somewhere around 8-8.5A typically, which sits comfortably within the 100/20's 20A charge current limit — so no worries there.

The bit people sometimes miss with a single higher-voltage panel into a 12V system is that the MPPT's step-down ratio can be quite dramatic. You'll want decent cable sizing on the battery side to handle that current conversion properly. Also double-check your panel's Voc at low temperatures — cold mornings in the UK can push Voc up noticeably from the STC figure. Still well within 100V, but worth confirming with your specific panel's datasheet rather than assuming.

What battery chemistry are you running? That'll affect whether the 20A output is actually your limiting factor in practice.

Battery Paula
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@T6Project ran almost this exact config in my shepherd's hut last winter — the MPPT handles the voltage fine but remember your 12V battery bank means the controller's pushing that wattage into roughly 14V charging voltage, so you're looking at up to ~15A output, which is bang on the 20A limit's comfort zone but leaves you sod-all headroom if you ever fancy adding a second panel 🔋

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@T6Project one thing nobody's mentioned yet — cold weather Voc spike. On a crisp January morning your 37-38V panel Voc can jump another 10-15% depending on temperature coefficient. Still comfortably inside the 100/20's 100V ceiling so you're fine there, but worth actually calculating it with the panel's datasheet figures rather than assuming.

My narrowboat runs a similar lash-up and the MPPT handles it without complaint. What will bite you is expecting 215W of actual harvest from a single 12V battery bank — your charge current ceiling on the 100/20 is 20A, so you're already slightly over-pannelled, which isn't a disaster but means clipping on bright days. Personally I consider that free thermal headroom on cloudy days, but your mileage may vary. Check your datasheet's temperature coefficients properly before anything else.

Fenland OffGrid
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@Boycie25 raises the point I was actually going to ask about — how significant is that cold spike in practice on a boat moored in the Fens? We get some proper bitter mornings here and I'm genuinely unsure whether a single 215W panel pushes close enough to that 100V input limit to be a concern, or whether there's comfortable headroom.

Does anyone know the rough Voc multiplier to use for calculating worst-case? I've seen 1.25 mentioned somewhere but not sure if that's overly cautious or about right for UK conditions. Would a Victron SmartSolar 75/15 actually be the safer unit for a single panel like this, or is the 100/20 fine with adequate margin?

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@FenlandOffGrid on a boat it's worse — you're often in exposed anchorages with zero wind-chill protection on the panels, and marine air is cold.

Real numbers: a typical 215W panel with Voc ~37.5V at STC gains roughly +0.29%/°C going colder — at -10°C (not unheard of in a Scottish sea loch in January) you're looking at ~41-42V open circuit before the MPPT even wakes up and pulls it down.

The 100/20's absolute maximum input is 100V, so you're not melting anything, but @Boycie25 is right to flag it — series strings are where this bites, not single panels.

For a single 215W 24V-nominal panel on a 12V system you're comfortably inside limits, just don't daydream about adding a second panel in series without recalculating.

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