Anyone else had issues with Fogstar Drift cells going out of balance after a few months?

by Brummie86 · 1 month ago 376 views 5 replies
Brummie86
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Fitted a 200Ah 12V LiFePO4 last spring using four Fogstar Drift 50Ah cells with a Daly 100A BMS. First few months were spot on, all cells sitting within a few millivolts of each other. Now cell 3 keeps drifting high during charge — hitting 3.65V while the others are still around 3.45V, causing the BMS to cut out early.

Tried a few manual top-balance sessions using my bench PSU but it keeps drifting back within a week or two. Running a Victron SmartSolar 100/30 so charge profile seems solid, nothing obviously wrong there. Van's used most weekends for camping trips, so the pack gets cycled fairly regularly.

Wondering if cell 3 is genuinely degrading or if the Daly BMS passive balancing just can't keep up. Anyone swapped out a single cell in a pack like this, or is it better to just upgrade to an active balancer at this point?

Kent Boater
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@Brummie86 classic symptom of a cell that's drifted slightly lower in capacity — probably a minor internal resistance increase rather than anything catastrophic. Your Daly BMS won't actively balance until cells hit the top-of-charge knee (around 3.45V+), so if you're not regularly reaching full charge, imbalances quietly accumulate over months.

Few things worth trying:

  • Do a full absorption charge to 14.6V and let the BMS passive balancing run for a good hour or two at the top
  • Check your cell interconnect torque — loose busbars cause resistance differences that mimic weak cells
  • Log individual cell voltages under load — a weak cell will sag disproportionately

The Daly passive balancer is fairly feeble (around 30-50mA). If balance issues persist, an external active balancer like the JK active balancer is worth the £20-odd investment.

Kangoo Nomad
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@Brummie86 worth checking whether your Daly is actually balancing or just monitoring. The passive balancing on most Daly units only activates above ~3.4V per cell and bleeds a measly 30-50mA — practically useless if cell 3 has drifted more than a few percent in capacity from the others.

What I'd suggest: manually top-balance the four cells individually with a bench power supply before reconnecting — hold each at 3.65V until current drops below ~100mA. This resets your baseline properly.

Also log your charge voltage. If your charger is hitting 14.6V and the Daly's balance function still can't keep up, that points to @KentBoater's capacity divergence diagnosis rather than a BMS fault.

I had similar creep on my 280Ah build after about eight months — top-balance sorted it completely and cells have stayed within 8mV ever since.

Doug
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@Brummie86 Had almost the identical setup last year on my shed build. One thing worth trying before you conclude it's a duff cell — give the whole pack a proper top balance. Disconnect everything, charge each cell individually to 3.65V with a bench power supply or decent single-cell charger, then reassemble. Sometimes cells drift apart simply because they were never perfectly balanced at the start, and it compounds over time.

Also worth double-checking your cell 3 bus bar connections are properly torqued. A slightly loose connection creates resistance which makes that cell appear weaker than it actually is. I chased a "bad cell" for weeks before finding a terminal that just needed another quarter turn.

If after a proper top balance it still keeps lagging, then I'd lean towards what @KentBoater is suggesting about reduced capacity.

Solar Trevor
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@Brummie86 had something similar with my garden office build. Cell 3 going high at top of charge is usually the one that's slightly higher capacity rather than the weak link — it charges faster so hits the BMS high voltage cutoff first.

Worth doing a full top balance outside the pack. Parallel all four cells at 3.65V with a decent bench PSU, let the current drop right off. Did this with mine and they've stayed within 10mV ever since.

Also — what's your charge voltage set to? If you're pushing 14.6V with a Daly doing minimal balancing, you're giving it very little time to catch up before cutoff. Drop to 14.4V and see if it helps first before pulling the pack apart.

OffGrid Jack
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@Brummie86 on my narrowboat build I had cell drift creep in around the 6-month mark too — turned out my bus bars weren't torqued evenly and one connection had slightly higher resistance, causing uneven charge acceptance over time.

Worth pulling the bus bars off cell 3 specifically and checking for any discolouration or oxidation on the terminals. Even a tiny bit of resistance there will show up as cell imbalance under load/charge.

Also worth noting — Daly passive balancing only kicks in above ~3.4V and bleeds off maybe 30-60mA. If your charge current is anything decent that balancer is basically fighting a losing battle. A small active balancer (I added a cheap JK one) alongside the Daly made a noticeable difference within a few cycles.

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