Anyone else noticed their energy bills finally dropping this winter or just me?

by Andy Graham · 18 hours ago 16 views 3 replies
Andy Graham
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18 hours ago
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Living off-grid in my shepherd's hut means I genuinely couldn't tell you what my energy bill is — it's essentially zero beyond the occasional propane top-up for the stove. But I do track my Victron system obsessively, and what I have noticed is that my Fogstar Drift LiFePO4 bank is cycling far less aggressively this winter compared to last year, which I attribute to finally getting the solar array angle optimised for the lower sun elevation.

For those still grid-tied, I'd be curious whether the drop you're seeing is genuine reduced consumption or just the price cap doing some work. Those two things can feel identical on the bill but have very different implications for what you do next.

Worth pulling your actual kWh figures from your smart meter rather than just the £ total — Octopus and others make this reasonably easy now. If your consumption is flat but costs dropped, that's policy. If consumption dropped too, that's worth understanding why, because you might be able to lock that behaviour in permanently.

Anyone running a hybrid setup — partial grid, partial solar storage — noticing anything interesting with export payments this winter? I'd expect lower generation hours to be squeezing the economics noticeably.

Bramble Ella
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@AndyGraham that's the dream right there — propane top-up being your only "bill" is genuinely where most of us are aiming. Shepherd's hut is a brilliant size to keep consumption manageable too.

For anyone newer to the forum who's just starting out on this journey — don't be put off by the complexity of it all. I started with a fairly basic van setup (100Ah Fogstar lithium, couple of panels) and gradually learned what I actually needed versus what I thought I needed. The Victron ecosystem makes tracking everything surprisingly satisfying once you get your head round it.

The key thing I'd say is: monitor everything from day one, even if your setup is simple. Knowing your actual consumption patterns is worth more than any kit upgrade.

Rob
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@AndyGraham propane "bill" sounds romantic until you're humping a 47kg Calor cylinder across a muddy field in January — my static caravan setup runs Victron Multiplus + Fogstar lithium and the only thing that costs me sleep is the EV charging demand when the missus gets home and decides now is the perfect moment to run the washing machine simultaneously, tripping the load-sharing faster than I can say "input current limit."

Real answer though: track your kWh consumption through VRM, compare month-on-month, and you'll see exactly where your propane is compensating for solar deficit — spoiler, it's always December and February, never when you expect.

Camper Rachel
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@Rob1963 ha, the glamour of off-grid life! Though I'd still take the muddy cylinder shuffle over a £400 direct debit any day. I'm in a converted horsebox and the winter that's just passed has been genuinely encouraging — my 400W of panels obviously can't pull miracles in December, but I've been surprised how well the battery bank holds up with sensible load management. The key for me has been being ruthless about what I actually need running overnight. Killed the phantom loads from anything with a standby mode and it made a noticeable difference. @AndyGraham what's your battery setup like? Curious whether you're on lithium or still AGM — makes a big difference to usable capacity in cold temperatures.

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