BMZ not powering up to my Victron Set up and charging multiplus capacitors

by VictronMaster · 1 month ago 12 views 6 replies
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#4183

I've been running into something similar with my narrowboat setup, and I reckon it's worth unpacking here because it's caught me out twice now.

The issue seems to be that the BMZ needs sufficient voltage and current available to properly initialise itself on the Cerbo. When you disconnect the Cerbo from the bus, you're removing a parasitic load that's preventing the battery from reaching its proper operating voltage. The Multiplus capacitors are another culprit — they're basically a dead short on startup, and if your BMZ management system doesn't see stable voltage across its terminals, it won't handshake with the rest of the system.

What I found worked:

Disconnect the Multiplus from the battery terminals temporarily while the BMZ boots up and talks to the Cerbo. Let them negotiate properly. Then reconnect. It's a bit fiddly, but beats troubleshooting for hours.

Check your battery interconnect cabling — make sure it's genuinely low resistance. A dodgy connection will cause voltage sag that throws the whole handshake off.

Also verify your Cerbo firmware is current. There were some BMZ communication bugs in older versions.

I'd be curious whether this is a cold-start issue or something that happens every power cycle? And are you running the battery in stand-alone mode or with multiple power sources?

Reckon someone from the Victron UK dealer network might have more specific guidance on the capacitor charging sequence too.

Holly Baker
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The OP's message got cut off, but I'd wager they're hitting the classic inrush current wall. BMZ battery management systems can be finicky about voltage sag during Multiplus startup—those capacitors need charging and it can dip the bus below the BMZ's minimum threshold.

Check your DC wiring gauge first. Undersized cables = voltage drop = BMZ won't wake up. I had this on my boat initially, swapped to 25mm² and sorted it immediately.

Also worth verifying your BMZ firmware's inrush tolerance settings. Some older versions are stricter than they need to be. And make sure your shunt's positioned correctly—dodgy comms between shunt and BMZ causes weird power-up behaviour.

What's your current setup—lithium or lead? That'll affect the workaround.

ExSquaddie49
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Right, so if the BMZ isn't waking up properly, you're likely looking at a voltage threshold issue rather than just inrush. The Victron gear needs to see a minimum voltage from the BMZ before it'll handshake correctly — usually around 48V for the MultiPlus.

What's probably happening is the BMZ is sat in a low-power state waiting for the inverter to kick in, but the inverter won't wake without seeing that voltage first. Classic catch-22.

Check your BMZ comms cable first — dodgy CAN connections cause this constantly. Then verify your battery pack is actually at full voltage with a multimeter before expecting the system to wake. Sometimes the BMS is being overly cautious with a slightly depleted pack.

What's your actual voltage reading at the MultiPlus input right now? And are you getting any error codes on the Victron display?

OldSailor
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The BMZ won't wake unless it sees a decent voltage on the battery side first — typically needs 48V minimum before it'll even talk to the Multiplus. If you're getting capacitor charging but no power delivery, the management system's likely stuck in a protective state.

Worth checking: is your battery actually at nominal voltage when you're testing? A partially discharged pack won't cut it. Also verify the CAN bus comms between BMZ and Victron — dodgy connectors are remarkably common culprits. Had this exact scenario on my setup; turned out a dodgy M23 connector was causing intermittent handshakes.

Try isolating the BMZ with a battery charger directly connected first to rule out the Multiplus altogether. Get it to 50V+ and see if it wakes properly.

BodgeItAndScarper92
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@VictronMaster - Reckon the lads above have nailed it with the voltage threshold, but worth checking your BMZ configuration settings too. I've seen this trip people up on narrowboats especially.

Make sure you've actually enabled the BMZ in the Victron system settings - sounds daft, but it's often overlooked. Also verify the CAN bus connections are seated properly; dodgy connectors will cause it to drop comms before it even gets to the wake-up sequence.

One thing I'd add: if you're charging those Multiplus capacitors before the BMZ comes online, you're putting the cart before the horse. The BMZ needs to be active and communicating with the inverter first, otherwise you'll get the charger trying to do its thing with an inactive BMS.

What voltage are you actually seeing on the battery side when you're trying to power up? That'd help narrow it down.

Stu Campbell
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Worth checking a couple of things the lads haven't mentioned yet. First, what's your battery monitor showing when you're trying to power up? I've found the BMZ can be finicky about how it measures voltage — if you've got dodgy shunt calibration or loose sense wire connections, it might be reading artificially low even when your cells are actually fine.

Second, if you're dealing with LiFePO₄ (which I'd guess you are on a narrowboat), the BMZ's cold weather behaviour can be problematic. Mine wouldn't wake below about 5°C until I adjusted the low temp threshold in the settings.

Also worth verifying you're not accidentally catching the pre-charge relay cycle — the MultiPlus does capacitor charge management automatically, but if your BMZ is dropping out during that phase, you're stuck. Check the Victron app logs for any disconnection events.

What battery chemistry are you running?

Quiet Trekker
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Had this exact headache with my garden office setup last year. The capacitor inrush is the bit that catches people out — the Multiplus will pull a surge when it first powers up and if the BMZ hasn't fully woken and stabilised, it'll just fault out.

What sorted it for me: add a pre-charge resistor across the DC isolator before you close it fully. Even a basic 100 ohm resistor wired in parallel lets the caps charge slowly first. Takes maybe 10-15 seconds then you close the main isolator properly.

@StuCampbell is right to check the battery monitor — if voltage is sagging below threshold during that inrush moment, that's your culprit rather than resting voltage.

Victron also has a setting in VEConfigure for accept charge voltage — worth double-checking that aligns with what the BMZ is actually outputting at wakeup.

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