Bus bars and fusing on 48v lifepo4

by AGM_Geek · 1 month ago 37 views 4 replies
AGM_Geek
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When I first wired up my garden office system — 16kWh of Fogstar Drift cells in a 48v pack — I made the classic mistake of treating the bus bars as an afterthought. Spent ages agonising over cell selection and BMS config, then nearly bodged the whole thing with undersized copper bars and a fuse that was more optimistic than practical.

What changed my thinking was actually reading through Victron's wiring unlimited PDF properly. The bit about fuse placement relative to the positive terminal really stuck with me — within 30cm ideally, before any other connection point.

For my setup I ended up going with:

  • 200A ANL fuse directly off the battery positive
  • Bespoke copper bus bars cut to size (4mm thickness, proper tinned)
  • Separate fused outputs for each load circuit off the bar

The ANL fuse feels right for a 48v system at my load levels, but I've seen folk argue that MRBF fuses bolt-mounted directly to the terminal are cleaner for tighter installs — and I can see the logic there.

What I'd genuinely like to know from others here is how you're handling the neutral/negative bus side. Mine feels a bit agricultural compared to the positive run — single thick cable back to a copper bar bolted to the chassis of the cabinet. Works fine, but I wonder if I'm missing something more elegant.

Anyone running higher amp setups on 48v care to share their fusing strategy? Particularly curious whether anyone's gone for a proper DIN-rail fused distribution board on the DC side rather than individual ANL/MRBF fuses.

VictronPro
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@AGM_Geek — oh, this resonates. First narrowboat build I did, I had a beautifully fused DC distribution board and then basically a couple of bits of copper bar I'd bent in the shed connecting the battery bank. Completely backwards.

The bus bar is the fuse path. If it fails before your protection does, you've got a thermal event on a boat. Not ideal.

Few things I'd add that catch people out:

  • Torque matters — Fogstar's own spec sheets give cell terminal torques; ignore them at your peril
  • Tinned copper beats bare copper for corrosion, especially anywhere with humidity
  • Inter-cell resistance testing after assembly — a cheap resistance meter will show up a dodgy connection before it becomes a hot one

What gauge are you running for your inter-cell links? That'd help narrow down whether your fusing hierarchy actually makes sense.

RetiredChef
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@AGM_Geek been there mate — spent three weeks obsessing over cell internal resistance matching on my narrowboat pack, then used bus bars rated for roughly half the fault current like an absolute muppet.

Key things I'd actually stress:

  • Bus bar cross-section matters more than you think — 48v systems are deceptively forgiving on voltage but the fault currents are terrifying
  • Fuse as close to the positive terminal as physically possible — ANL fuses are your friend here
  • Torque those bus bar bolts properly — a loose joint is just a resistive heater waiting to embarrass you
  • Victron's SmartShunt goes between negative bus bar and battery negative, not as an afterthought either

My 16kWh static caravan setup taught me that copper bus bars beat those bargain aluminium ones every single time — aluminium oxidises and your connections go south faster than a retired chef on holiday. 🔧

OffGrid Doug
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@AGM_Geek the interconnect resistance issue bit me hard on my motorhome build — 280Ah Eve cells in a 48v configuration. I torqued every cell terminal to spec but completely ignored the bus bar cross-section until I noticed my BMS was seeing a 0.3v delta under load that simply didn't exist at rest. Turned out my copper bars were undersized by roughly 40% for the continuous discharge rate I was pulling.

Worth pointing out: for 48v systems the currents are proportionally lower than 12v equivalents, which tempts people into undersizing. Don't. Fault current during a short is still catastrophic.

My current setup uses 30mm × 4mm bare copper bar with tin plating — resists oxidation far better than bare copper in the damp environment a motorhome creates. Each inter-cell connection fused at the positive busbar rail using MIDI fuse holders.

CE_Builds
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#27079

@AGM_Geek same story on my garden office build — the bus bars were almost an afterthought until I actually measured volt drop under load.

Few things that made a real difference:

  • Tinned copper bars rather than bare copper — oxidation on bare copper kills conductivity over time in damp environments
  • Torque the connections properly with a calibrated wrench, not just "tight enough"
  • Fuse every positive at the battery before the bar, not after — the bar itself can carry fault current otherwise
  • Use a proper milliohm meter to verify joint resistance; anything over ~0.5mΩ per joint needs investigating

For 48v Fogstar packs specifically, I'd also look at Victron's Lynx Distributor — integrates busbar and fusing cleanly and the build quality justifies the price on a permanent install.

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