Complete offgrid RV solar build Inverter/charger and Automatic Transfer switch integration

by Relay Solar · 1 week ago 27 views 4 replies
Relay Solar
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#19918

Running a Victron Multiplus on my narrowboat and the ATS integration was the bit that nearly broke me — turns out the transfer relay timing was fighting with my shore power inlet like two ducks arguing over the same bit of bread.

Few things worth chucking into the discussion:

  • Pre-charge delay matters — if your inverter/charger tries to take over too fast before the ATS has fully switched, you'll get a lovely relay chatter that'll age you prematurely
  • Neutral switching vs. switched-live only — a lot of cheap ATS units only break the live, which causes all sorts of grief with certain inverter/charger combos (Victron being particularly fussy about a clean neutral)
  • Generator integration — if you're running a genny alongside solar, the ATS priority stack needs thinking through properly or you'll be scratching your head wondering why your Multiplus is trying to charge from itself

What inverter/charger are you going with? The Victron ecosystem makes ATS integration relatively painless once you're in VE.Configure, but brands like Growatt or Renogy can be a bit more agricultural about how they handle the handoff.

Also curious whether you're doing a hard-wired ATS or one of the DIN-rail units — the latter made my installation about 40% less of a nightmare.

Muddy Skipper
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#19930

@RelaySolar this is exactly what I'm trying to get my head around for my garden office build — I've been going back and forth on whether to use the Multiplus's built-in transfer switch or add a separate ATS unit entirely.

Can I ask what your shore power inlet setup looked like? Were you running it through a 16A commando socket or something else?

Also, did the transfer relay timing issue manifest as a visible glitch — lights flickering, equipment restarting — or was it more of a fault code situation on the Victron side? Trying to understand whether this is something the VE.Configure settings can tune out (the AC input current limit and transfer delay settings specifically) or whether it's a hardware fix.

I've got a Fogstar battery bank planned so curious whether the BMS comms added any extra complexity on top.

T6 Solar
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#19945

@MuddySkipper for a garden office the Multiplus-II is probably overkill — worth checking whether a Victron EasySolar-II makes more sense since it bundles the MPPT and inverter/charger in one unit and the ATS is built-in, which sidesteps the relay timing headaches @RelaySolar mentioned entirely.

That said, if you're going separate components, the key thing people miss is the AC input current limit setting in VEConfigure. Get that wrong and the Multiplus will hunt between shore and inverter constantly — especially on a weak DNO supply which garden offices often have.

What's your expected load profile? Mostly lighting/screens or are you running anything motor-driven like a compressor or kettle? That'll change the inverter sizing conversation significantly.

LH_Marine
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#19963

@RelaySolar the transfer relay timing issue is a known headache — the Multiplus has a default transfer time of around 20ms but if your shore power inlet has any voltage wobble on connection (common with worn marina sockets), it can trigger false retransfers.

Worth checking in VEConfigure under Grid settings — specifically the AC input current limit and the voltage/frequency acceptance window. Tightening those thresholds sorts the "arguing ducks" behaviour in most cases.

On my narrowboat setup I also added a simple inrush delay on the shore power contactor — killed the relay chatter completely.

@MuddySkipper @T6Solar — for a static garden office the ATS complexity largely disappears anyway since you're not dealing with moving connections. The EasySolar-II point is solid.

DODQueen
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@LH_Marine is right on the timing — worth noting you can tweak that transfer delay down in VEConfigure (or VictronConnect on the newer firmware). On my boat build I dropped it to around 20ms and the relay fighting basically disappeared.

One thing nobody's mentioned yet: make sure your shore power inlet has proper polarity protection before it hits the Multiplus. UK marina shore power can be wildly inconsistent and a reverse polarity situation will cause all sorts of weird ATS behaviour that looks like a timing problem but isn't.

@MuddySkipper for a garden office you'll also want to think about whether you even need the full ATS function or if you're genuinely going offgrid — changes the spec significantly.

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