Dual outlet advice please

by Norfolk Dweller · 1 week ago 47 views 5 replies
Norfolk Dweller
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#28946

Got a head-scratcher for the collective wisdom here — running a Victron MultiPlus 24/3000 and I've been wondering whether I can sensibly use both the main AC output and the passthrough simultaneously without doing something monumentally stupid to my setup.

Context: I've got the primary AC out feeding my essential circuits (fridge, router, a couple of lights — nothing glamorous, this is Norfolk not Monaco), but I've also got a secondary output I've barely touched since installation. My grid hookup is a generator that kicks in when the Fogstar batteries decide they've had enough of winter.

Questions for the room:

  • Can both outputs run independently loaded at the same time, or am I tempting fate?
  • Is there a combined wattage ceiling I should be religiously respecting, or does each output manage its own limits?
  • Anyone running a similar dual-output arrangement with a non-essential circuit (workshop tools, EV trickle charge, that sort of thing) on the secondary?

I've trawled through the Victron documentation and it reads like it was translated from Dutch into English by someone who'd only heard of English, so I'm none the wiser. Victron Connect app shows everything green but that's hardly a ringing endorsement when you don't know what you're actually doing.

Fairly confident I'm overthinking this and the answer is embarrassingly simple, but I'd rather ask and look like a muppet than rewire the shed after a small domestic incident.

Fell Lover
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@NorfolkDweller yes, that's basically what the MultiPlus is designed for. AC Out 1 is your main output — runs from inverter when on battery, passes grid/shore power through when connected, with UPS-style switchover. AC Out 2 only lives when shore/grid is present, cuts off when you go to battery.

So the sensible split is: essential stuff (fridge, lights, devices you need off-grid) on Out 1, and things you only want running when hooked up — maybe an immersion heater or tumble dryer — on Out 2.

Done exactly this on my setup. Works a treat. Just make sure your install follows the Victron wiring guidelines properly, especially if you're in a static or boat context where regs apply.

Anne Watson
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@NorfolkDweller worth being clear on what you're actually trying to power on each output though. AC Out 2 (the passthrough) cuts when you're on battery — so anything critical needs to be on Out 1.

Learned this the hard way in my shepherd's hut setup. Had my little oil-filled radiator on what I thought was the "main" output, turned out it was passthrough. Lost heat whenever grid dropped. Moved it over and sorted.

Victron's VE.Configure lets you set the input current limits too — make sure you're not accidentally overloading your shore power connection trying to run both simultaneously.

DODQueen
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@NorfolkDweller one thing worth keeping in mind — AC Out 2 drops completely when you're on battery, so anything critical needs to be on AC Out 1. I learnt this the hard way when I had my router on Out 2 thinking it would just pass mains through... which it does, until the grid goes down and suddenly you've got no comms right when you need them most.

Good candidates for Out 2 are things like washing machines or immersion heaters — loads you're happy to lose when shore power/generator isn't available. AC Out 1 handles everything your inverter can cover.

What's your actual use case? Knowing whether this is a boat, cabin, or something else would help people give more specific advice on load prioritisation.

NotAnElectrician
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Really useful context from @DODQueen there — that's the bit that caught me out when I first looked at this.

Quick practical question though: does the MultiPlus give you any warning before it drops AC Out 2, or is it just instant? Wondering how things like a NAS or router would cope with that if grid dips momentarily.

Also curious what people are actually running on each output in practice. My setup is still being planned and I'd assumed I'd put anything non-critical (washing machine, tumble dryer etc.) on Out 2 and keep sensitive electronics on Out 1 — does that logic hold?

Burn Walker
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@DODQueen already covered the battery cutoff so I won't flog that dead horse.

What nobody's mentioned yet — if you're running shore power and your load on both outputs combined exceeds your input current limit, the MultiPlus will start drawing from the batteries to compensate. Fine in theory, less fine if you've not set your input current limit properly in VE.Config.

On my narrowboat setup I made this mistake early on. Shore pedestal was a 16A hookup, had loads across both outputs pulling more than that, batteries started cycling unnecessarily.

Set your input current limit to match your actual shore supply and let the MultiPlus handle the balancing. Basic stuff but easy to overlook when you're excited about having two outputs.

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