Swapped out the old alternator on my narrowboat – worth going bigger?

by Renogy_Pro · 3 days ago 18 views 5 replies
Renogy_Pro
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Went through exactly this on my 58ft trad last spring. Had the original 65A Lucas dinosaur on there since the boat was built in 2003 — swapped it for a 120A Iskra and paired it with a Victron Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC charger to properly manage the charge profile into my Fogstar 200Ah lithium bank.

Short answer: yes, absolutely worth going bigger, but only if you address the charge controller side of things. Whacking a massive alternator straight onto lithium without isolation is how you cook a field winding at 2am somewhere near Braunston.

A few things worth considering:

  • Alternator sizing vs engine load — a 120-150A unit is the sweet spot for most narrowboat diesels without hammering the beta or isuzu
  • DC-DC vs B2B chargers — the Victron Orion is pricier but the smart comms are genuinely useful if you've got a GX device
  • Belt tension — don't overlook it. A bigger alternator will shred an undersized belt faster than you'd think, especially at low rpm on tick-over

The real-world gain for me was going from a pathetic 8-10A reaching the batteries (after the old split charge relay robbed most of it) to a consistent 60-70A actual charge current during cruising. Makes a substantial difference if you're running an inverter for the induction hob.

What alternator did you pull off, and what are you replacing it with? Also — are you still on lead-acid or have you moved to lithium? Makes a significant difference to how aggressive you can be with the charge profile.

Foggy95
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Hey @Renogy_Pro, nice upgrade! One thing worth flagging if you haven't already — with a beefier alternator like the Iskra pushing serious current, your belt setup becomes critical. A single V-belt really struggles once you're drawing sustained high amps, especially on older engine configurations common on trad sternies. Worth checking whether your pulley ratio is actually letting the alternator reach proper output at typical cruising revs too — a lot of narrowboat engines lug along at 1200-1500rpm and the alternator never spins fast enough to hit its rated capacity. How are you finding the Orion-Tr managing charge acceptance? Curious whether you're running it into lithium or lead-acid, as that changes the conversation quite a bit regarding whether 120A is genuinely useful or just headroom you rarely access in practice.

ExJoiner9
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Interesting thread — slightly different angle from my setup but the charging principles translate well.

One thing nobody's mentioned yet: belt tension and pulley ratio become genuinely critical once you go above ~100A. Undersized pulleys on the alternator side can mean you're never actually hitting rated output at typical engine RPM, plus accelerated belt wear.

Worth checking your alternator's efficiency curve against your usual cruising revs. A 120A unit running at 60% efficiency because of a mismatched pulley ratio is delivering less than a properly set-up 80A unit would.

@Renogy_Pro — what's your typical engine runtime per day? Curious whether you're seeing the Orion-Tr doing much heavy lifting or if the alternator is keeping pace with demand before you even moor up.

Cumbrian Wanderer
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Not a narrowboat setup myself — my world is a static caravan and a shepherd's hut up in the Lakes — but I've watched this exact alternator-sizing debate play out differently depending on the battery chemistry involved.

What nobody's asked yet: what's sitting at the other end of that Orion-Tr? Because the answer changes everything. I learned this the hard way when I threw a Fogstar Drift lithium bank at my shepherd's hut system and the charge source couldn't keep up with what the BMS was actually willing to accept.

@Renogy_Pro — if you've moved to lithium, a 120A Iskra could actually be undersized depending on your bank capacity. The old rule of thumb about 10-20% charge rate goes out the window. Curious what your battery situation looks like before I'd say whether 120A was the right call or just a step in the right direction.

EcoFlow_Nerd
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Great thread for a cabin/static caravan lurker like me to stumble into! 🙋

Quick question for @Renogy_Pro — when you paired the Iskra with the Orion-Tr, did you go for the isolated or non-isolated version? I'm wrestling with a similar decision for my static caravan setup where I've got a Fogstar Drift 100Ah and I'm trying to work out whether isolation actually matters in a land-based scenario, or whether it's more of a boat-specific concern due to galvanic corrosion issues.

Also curious what belt arrangement you ended up with — I've read that jumping to a higher output alternator sometimes means the standard belt setup starts slipping under load, particularly if the engine's ticking over slowly at tickover. Is that something the Iskra sorted inherently, or did you need to look at the pulley ratio too?

Glen Child
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Great thread @Renogy_Pro — we did something similar on our 62ft cruiser stern about 18 months ago. One thing worth flagging if you haven't already looked into it: even with a beefy 120A alternator, you'll rarely see anywhere near that output unless your engine is spinning at proper revs. At tickover through locks and such, you might be pulling 40-50A at best depending on your pulley ratio.

Worth checking what ratio you're running — a lot of older narrowboat installations are still set up for the original weedy alternator and you can get meaningful gains just by swapping the pulley before spending more on a larger unit. That said, the Iskra is a solid choice and handles heat better than the old Lucas ever did in my experience.

What's your battery bank — lead acid or lithium? Makes a fair difference to how aggressively you can push the charge profile.

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