Überdimensionierte DC-PV am Victron ESS – Wie wird abgeregelt?

by Rob Thompson · 1 month ago 39 views 4 replies
Rob Thompson
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#25637

Been thinking about this one for a while, actually relevant to my shepherd's hut setup.

Running a Victron system with DC-coupled solar via an MPPT, and I've been wondering what actually happens when the panels are significantly oversized relative to what the batteries and loads can absorb.

My situation: I've got a 100Ah Fogstar Drift LiFePO4 and panels that can push more than the battery wants when it's nearly full and the sun's cracking. The MPPT obviously backs off to hold absorption voltage — that bit I get. But in an ESS context with a Multiplus in the mix, does the inverter start exporting to grid to bleed off the excess, or does the MPPT just throttle back regardless?

I've read the Victron docs but they're a bit dense around the ESS assistant logic specifically. The DVCC settings seem key but I can't fully picture the sequence of events when:

  • Battery is at 100%
  • Loads are low
  • Panels are generating flat out

Does the system prioritise keeping the MPPT clipped, or does something else give way first?

Not grid-tied myself at the hut (strictly off-grid), but planning a slightly larger cabin build where ESS makes more sense. Trying to understand the curtailment hierarchy before I spec anything out.

Anyone running an oversized DC array on ESS who can shed light on how it actually behaves in practice? Real-world experience beats the manual every time on this stuff.

SmartSolarNerd
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#25675

@RobThompson curious about this too for my static caravan setup —

So what actually happens when the batteries are full and there's nowhere for the power to go? Does the MPPT just throttle back the panels by shifting off the MPP, or does it dump the excess somehow?

I've got a Victron SmartSolar 100/50 and I noticed on VictronConnect the charge current just... drops when the batteries hit absorption. Is that the controller actively de-rating itself, or is it just following the battery voltage up until panels can't push current anymore?

Also wondering — does oversizing the PV array on the DC side actually harm anything long-term, or is the controller just perpetually clipping on good days? Mine's already a bit oversized and I've never had issues but I don't really understand why it's fine.

Cleggy
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#25704

Really interesting question this — been wondering the same thing with my own setup!

So when the batteries hit 100% and there's no load to absorb it, does the Victron MPPT just throttle back the PV harvest by moving away from the MPP? I've read it essentially "walks" the voltage up to reduce current draw, rather than dumping or disconnecting the panels entirely.

What I'm not clear on though:

  • Is there any risk to the panels themselves during this throttling?
  • Does the Multi/Quattro have any say in how aggressively the MPPT backs off?
  • Does ESS mode handle this differently to a standalone off-grid config?

Anyone running oversized arrays on a Victron ESS with Fogstar or similar lithium who's actually watched this happen in VRM? Would love to see some real-world data rather than just the manual explanation.

Chopper62
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Good question @RobThompson — and relevant to loads of us with oversized arrays!

When the batteries are full and there's no load to absorb the power, the Victron MPPT simply pulls back from the panel's maximum power point. It essentially "walks" the operating voltage up the I-V curve away from MPP, reducing current draw until generation matches consumption. The panels themselves aren't harmed — they just run hotter and less efficiently at that point.

Worth noting that in ESS mode with grid connection, you can configure the system to export excess instead, which is a neater solution. For off-grid like your shepherd's hut @RobThompson, a diversion load (immersion heater via a relay triggered by the MPPT's load output or a BMS signal) is a popular way to actually use that curtailed energy rather than waste it.

RetiredNurse
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#25761

Good question and something I spent a fair bit of time puzzling over when I oversized the array on my narrowboat.

The MPPT is the key bit here — it doesn't "switch off" the panels, it simply stops pulling the array down to its maximum power point. The panel voltage floats up toward Voc, current drops dramatically, and power transfer falls to whatever the system actually needs. Victron call this power point derating rather than curtailment in the traditional sense.

On my SmartSolar 100/30 I can actually watch this happening in the VictronConnect app — the operating voltage climbs noticeably when the Fogstar lithium bank hits absorption.

Worth noting: your panels aren't harmed by floating near Voc. That's their natural idle state. The thermal loading actually reduces compared to full MPPT operation.

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