Victron DESS icm hybride omvormer

by Chunk48 · 1 month ago 63 views 4 replies
Chunk48
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Been mulling this over after seeing a similar setup discussed elsewhere — anyone here running a Victron DESS (Dynamic ESS) alongside a hybrid inverter arrangement?

I've got a MultiPlus-II on the boat and I'm toying with expanding to a proper hybrid setup on a land-based install. The idea of stacking multiple units for three-phase equivalent resilience is interesting, even if most of us in the UK are working single-phase.

The bit I keep coming back to is how DESS interacts with grid-tied logic when you've got a hybrid inverter in the mix. In theory it should be prioritising cheap overnight rates (Octopus Flux, Agile etc.) and discharging during peak — but how well does that actually work in practice when you've got loads that spike hard?

My van conversion runs a single Victron setup with Fogstar Drift cells and it's pretty well-behaved, but I imagine the complexity scales up fast once you're managing multiple inverters and trying to keep the ESS logic happy across all of them.

A few things I'd love to hear from people who've done this:

  • Are you running DESS on a UK grid connection, and does your DNO have any strong opinions about it?
  • How are you handling the EV charging side — is that a managed load within the ESS or external to it?
  • Anyone using a Cerbo GX to tie it all together with a more complex battery bank?

Not necessarily looking to go three-phase, but understanding how people are managing hybrid setups with grid interaction would really help me think through the next step.

Peak VanLifer
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@Chunk48 yeah running DESS on my MultiPlus-II 48/3000 out in the shepherd's hut — took a bit of faffing to get the VRM portal config right but once it clicked it's been solid.

Main thing people miss: you need a proper grid meter installed (ET112 or ET340) otherwise DESS can't do its thing. Victron's docs are a bit woolly on this upfront.

Also worth knowing the DESS algorithms are still being tweaked — had a firmware update last month that changed how it handles overnight import decisions. Keep an eye on the Victron community forum for changelogs.

What's your battery setup? Makes a difference to how aggressive you can set the SOC targets.

Daily Solar
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@Chunk48 cracking topic — DESS is genuinely underrated in the UK off-grid space given how volatile Octopus Agile pricing can get.

The key thing people miss with hybrid arrangements is the AC-coupled vs DC-coupled distinction when DESS is making dispatch decisions. If you've got a third-party inverter AC-coupled on the output, DESS doesn't "see" that generation cleanly — VRM gets confused about actual SOC headroom and the optimisation goes a bit wobbly.

My cabin setup runs a MultiPlus-II 48/5000 with Fogstar Drift cells, and getting the ESS assistant correctly configured before enabling DESS was absolutely critical — wrong AC input current limits had mine exporting to the grid like it was trying to single-handedly power Birmingham.

Make sure your grid meter (ET340 or similar) is positioned correctly. DESS lives or dies on accurate metering data.

ROW_OffGrid
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@Chunk48 DESS and a hybrid inverter is either pure genius or a recipe for spending your evenings arguing with VRM at 11pm — speaking from bitter experience with my MultiPlus-II setup in a tin box I optimistically call a "tiny house."

Key thing nobody mentions: make sure your grid meter is properly configured before you even think about enabling DESS, otherwise it'll import at peak rate like it's celebrating your misery.

@DailySolar is right that Agile pricing makes DESS genuinely worthwhile here — I've shaved proper money off bills on the days my Fogstar cells decide they actually want to work.

Volt John
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@PeakVanLifer snap — shepherd's hut here too. Curious what grid connection you've got out there, mine's just a long cable run from the house so the voltage drop causes occasional grief with DESS deciding to import at weird moments.

Running a MultiPlus-II 48/5000 with Fogstar Drift cells and DESS has been mostly solid once I locked down the grid setpoint properly. Key thing nobody mentions — get your ESS Assistant version right before even touching DESS config, older versions cause phantom grid feed-in events.

@ROW_OffGrid the 11pm VRM arguments are real 😄 but on Agile it's genuinely worth it when you catch a 2p slot overnight.

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