Victron MultiPlus 12/3000 keeps dropping to float too early — anyone else had this?

by Stormy Hiker · 2 months ago 618 views 8 replies
Stormy Hiker
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Been running my static caravan off-grid for about eight months now and the MultiPlus has been mostly brilliant, but lately I've noticed it's cutting the bulk charge short and jumping straight to float when the Fogstar 200Ah lithium is only sitting around 70–75%. The BMS isn't throwing any flags and the Cerbo GX dashboard looks perfectly normal aside from the SOC being obviously wrong when it makes the switch.

I've checked the absorption voltage is set to 14.2V and the tail current threshold is at 4% (8A on a 200Ah bank), which should be fine. My suspicion is the tail current is being tripped too quickly — possibly because the charge wires from the 40A shore power hookup have a bit of voltage drop, so the MultiPlus thinks the battery is fuller than it actually is.

Has anyone dialled this in properly through VE.Configure? Wondering whether dropping the tail current to 2% and bumping the minimum absorption time to 30 minutes would sort it, or whether I'm barking up the wrong tree entirely. Open to hearing how others have set this up, especially if you're running Fogstar cells with a Daly or JK BMS.

Sprinter Wanderer
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@StormyHiker had something similar with mine earlier this year. Is your battery temperature sensor actually connected and reading correctly? My MultiPlus was doing exactly this — cutting bulk short — and it turned out the BMS on my Fogstar Drift was sending a slightly dodgy temperature signal that the Victron was interpreting as "batteries full."

Worth checking in VictronConnect what your actual absorption voltage is set to versus what it's actually reaching before it drops. If it's nowhere near target voltage when it switches, that points to either a current-based trigger or a sensor issue rather than the batteries genuinely being full.

What battery chemistry are you running? The default charge profile settings are sometimes miles off for lithium, especially if someone's been in the config previously.

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Wendy1968 | 847 posts | ⚡ Solar Enthusiast

@StormyHiker worth checking your absorption voltage setting in VEConfigure — if it's set too low, the batteries can appear to hit their target voltage quickly under lighter loads and trick the system into thinking they're fuller than they are. Also have a look at the "repeated absorption time" setting.

Another thing that caught me out last winter — if you're on AGM or gel batteries, the charge algorithm is quite different from flooded, so make sure the battery type is correctly configured. What's your battery bank? Lithium, AGM, or flooded lead acid? That'll help narrow it down considerably.

Also, what @SprinterWanderer was getting at about the temperature sensor is worth following up on too — a faulty reading there can definitely cause premature float.

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IanWhite | 1,203 posts | ☀️ Off-Grid Veteran

@StormyHiker one thing neither of the others have mentioned yet — check your "tail current" setting in VEConfigure. This is the threshold at which the MultiPlus decides the battery is full and exits absorption early. If it's set too high (say 4-5% of battery capacity), it'll bail out of bulk/absorption prematurely, especially if your batteries are relatively healthy and accepting charge efficiently.

Default is often a bit aggressive for certain battery chemistries. What batteries are you running? AGM, lithium, or flooded lead-acid? That'll make a big difference to what the tail current should be set at. Also worth checking whether this started after a firmware update — Victron tweaked some default charge parameters in a few recent releases that caught a few of us out.

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@StormyHiker something nobody's touched on yet: check your tail current threshold in VEConfigure. The MultiPlus terminates absorption early when charge current drops below a set percentage of the battery capacity figure you've entered. If your battery capacity value is wrong — too high — the tail current trips prematurely.

Also worth interrogating: are you running lithium with a BMS that's sending a DVCC signal telling the Victron to back off? I've seen this exact symptom on my shepherd's hut system when the Fogstar BMS was throttling charge current via the VE.Bus.

Pull a VRM log or connect VE.Bus Smart Dongle and look at actual charge current at the moment it flips to float. If it's still relatively high, it's not a tail current issue — something external is commanding the state change.

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SarahClark75 | 412 posts | 🏡 Static Caravan Off-Gridder

@StormyHiker I had almost identical behaviour with mine last winter! What sorted it for me was recalibrating the battery capacity setting in VictronConnect — if it's set too low, the MultiPlus thinks the batteries are fuller than they actually are and exits bulk prematurely.

Also worth double-checking your battery temperature. I'd got my temperature sensor wire working loose, so it was feeding daft readings and confusing the charge algorithm something rotten.

Eight months in is also around the time a dodgy cell in one of your batteries can start causing grief — if you've got a bank of AGMs or lithiums, it might be worth checking individual cell voltages under load to rule that out.

What battery chemistry are you running?

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NeilBurns91 | 287 posts | 🐑 Shepherd's Hut & EV Tinkerer

@StormyHiker worth checking your battery temperature sensor if you've got one fitted. Mine was giving false readings last winter and the MultiPlus was compensating by cutting bulk short — thought the batteries were warmer than they were so assumed they were fuller than they actually were.

Also, what are your charge current settings in VictronConnect? I've got a 200Ah Fogstar Drift LiFePO4 bank and had to manually dial in the tail current threshold — default was way too conservative for my setup. The MultiPlus was seeing a low tail current and deciding absorption was done early.

Connect it up via VE.Direct and have a proper look at the charge curve in real time. You'll spot exactly where it's jumping across.

Hamish Mitchell
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HamishMitchell | 634 posts | 🏡 Garden Office & Cabin Dabbler

One thing not mentioned yet — double-check your absorption time settings in VictronConnect. The MultiPlus has an adaptive absorption algorithm that shortens the absorption phase based on how long bulk took. If your bulk is completing quickly (maybe your loads are low or batteries are partially topped up already), it'll compress absorption accordingly and hop to float faster than you'd expect.

Worth logging a full charge cycle via VRM if you haven't already — you'll see exactly where it's transitioning and why. Sorted a very similar head-scratcher on my garden office setup that way.

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FormerMechanic15 | 156 posts | 🛖 Shepherd's Hut Off-Gridder

Had this exact thing last winter in my hut. Turned out my battery bank had a duff cell — one LiFePO4 block from a Fogstar batch was hitting its voltage ceiling faster than the others, so the whole bank looked full to the MultiPlus but wasn't.

Worth running VictronConnect during a full charge cycle and watching the actual current tail-off. If it's still pushing decent amps when it switches to float, your charge settings are off. If current's already dropped right away, suspect the batteries themselves.

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